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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
That's right, I'm talking to you!

Does anybody have any gardening experience? Got any advice on growing vegetables?

Failing that... ukulele advice?

Or... what did you have for lunch?
 
Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
 
I've had a garden or two. Edge your garden w/marigolds and w/mint - keeps the bugs away (just watch the mint, as it can take over). Also, planting basil near your tomatoes gives them a nice flavor.

We always bite off more than we can chew with our garden and end up letting it get overgrown, so I may not be the best to give advice.

[ 15.02.2008, 09:40: Message edited by: rooster ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Excellent! Thank you, rooster.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Does anybody have any gardening experience? Got any advice on growing vegetables?

Yes. Many years of growing vegetable experience right here. What would you specifically like to know?
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Come on! Somebody must have some vegetable-growing experience. No?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
I grew/attempted to grow things last year and am doing the same this year.

The garden was absolutely teeming with slugs and snails and, no matter what I did, couldn't keep them away. I tried almost everything, even picking the little bastards up and lobbing them over the fence. I'm hoping I beat them down enough that they won't cause too many problems this year.

I found that some things grew better than others. Anything with an onion flavour (onions, spring onions, leeks, garlic) grows with almost no problems at all because nothing apart from humans likes the taste of them.

Similar for tomatoes, snails'll only have a go at those if they're desperate, and even then give up pretty quick and just go to sleep on the leaves instead. Lob 'em over the fence.

Potatoes did really well too, and they're brilliant because they grow underground and you harvest them by digging over the soil and picking them out... but you always leave one or two in there by mistake and they continue to grow and, months later, when you've forgotten all about them, you dig up enough nice-sized potatoes to use as a side-dish. Neat!

I tried sewing carrots several times but the nearest I got to success was a few I planted too early when I was overkeen to begin planting and about 5 of them (out of a packet of 200 seeds) survived a reasonable length of time.

I planted lettuces in hanging baskets which did absolutely fine until they reached a certain size where I decided that they should go in the ground. I planted them in 4 or 5 neat rows and they looked ace. Then I dusted off my hands and waited for them to finish growing.

You know when you watch a cartoon where Donald Duck or someone is growing veggies and some pest comes along and ruins everything? They burrow under the surface and yank the entire veg under and eat it on the spot? It was a bit like that: every day I came back home, one more - and for some reason the snails targeted just one at a time - had been eaten, leaving nothing more than an unappetizing stump. Slimy little wankers. I lobbed them over the fence for that.

Oh, and don't waste your time with peas or spinach unless you like getting frustrated.

I'm having a go with parsnips this year. Not sure how well they'll fare, but cross yer fingers, will ya?

[ 15.02.2008, 09:54: Message edited by: Lickapaw#2 ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Splendid!
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lickapaw#2:
Oh, and don't waste your time with peas or spinach unless you like getting frustrated.

I disagree. I tend to have the most success with peas. Plus they're the earliest thing I can plant in my neck of the woods. I also don't really know what your climate is like, or your soil for that matter.
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
True, true.

And therein, B.M. lies one important lesson: take advice from other people with a pinch of salt, because there are so many variables that what works for ralph definitely doesn't work for me might work pretty well for you etc.

Try whatever you like. Plant where your heart leads you.

It is splendid at that - despite the mollusc-based irritations I do heartily recommend it.

If you're looking for good flowers then the previously-mentioned marigolds are brilliant and so are sweet peas.

Try planting the marigolds so they're in a bit of a bunch so each one can hold up another, because they can be a bit spindly, the tall ones, and lean over your pathways where they are then squashed. Which isn't good.

Also, with sweet peas, look for a variety that grows on long stems not short - they're easier to put into vases then - and cut them every two or three days when new flowers come out. They smell sweet and you can decorate your house with lurvely flowers for weeks and weeks!

Ooh - note to self: beetroot and sweet peas.

[ 15.02.2008, 10:01: Message edited by: Lickapaw#2 ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
We grow spinach, and it seems to go quite well. I say 'we', but really I don't have anything to do with the veg in the garden. Octavia goes out there with a trowell occasionally, and then after that there's spinach with every meal.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
So my advice is, go outside with a trowell occasionally, and something should happen.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
We grow spinach, and it seems to go quite well. I say 'we', but really I don't have anything to do with the veg in the garden. Octavia goes out there with a trowell occasionally, and then after that there's spinach with every meal.

I'm quite keen to avoid this sort of thing, and I have no idea how much stuff a plant will yield. I don't want to spend months chewing my way through a fucking mountain of indigestible kohlrabi, or whatever the fuck else we misguidedly plant, because it sounds exotic. How much ground should you give over to each 'crop'?
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
And when you start planting seeds indoors, be warned that it all grows rather bigger than you might first anticipate. What starts out as a living room windowsill full of supermarket-plastic meat trays filled with soil and seedlings surprisingly quickly becomes:

- every window sill you've got packed with young plants.
- the part of the floor in your bedroom that gets a lot of sunlight gets a lining of newspaper and more pots
- some pots go outside which you're not happy about because it's still too cold out there

You get the picture.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
How much ground should you give over to each 'crop'?

That varies from crop to crop. We always grow as many tomato plants as we can because the fruit can be turned into sauce and preserved for use throughout the year. Same thing with strawberries and blueberries. You can't really save leafy greens for any great length of time, so I would suggest a staggered planting to ensure you have the longest possible harvest time.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
That sounds worrying, Licky. We've got a garden, which is basically for barbecues, backyard wrestling and target practice, and we've got an allotment which is where the growing will (hopefully) be taking place. I don't want to be humping stuff all round the neighbourhood because it needs special treatment at home. Fuck! What have I done?

No advice on the crop-yield thing then? No? Anybody?

[ 15.02.2008, 10:11: Message edited by: Black Mask ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lickapaw#2:
You get the picture.

Yeah.

So what's your climate like? When is the suggested date for outdoor planting in your area?
When we first moved to the boonies, we didn't realize that tomato plants needed to be put out as late as the end of May. We put a bunch in the ground in mid-May, only to have them all killed by a six inch snowfall. Live and learn I suppose...
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
What on earth is an "allotment", Licky?

[ 15.02.2008, 10:16: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
I knew I should stagger crops from the beginning, but I'd recommend planting one more line of them every 2 weeks. Right from when you first start planting.

I was about to type that I was going to do that this year, but I've just realised that I've already run out of space.

When we move I'm looking for another garden, though.

EDIT: outdoor growing? Probably around March/April. But I've had the onions/garlic out since December 'cos they can manage it.

And an allotment is a designated area of land where Ingerlish people grow things.

[ 15.02.2008, 10:13: Message edited by: Lickapaw#2 ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
No advice on the crop-yield thing then? No? Anybody?

lol.
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
No advice on the crop-yield thing then? No? Anybody?

lol.
He's going to end up with a shitload of plants, isn't he?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lickapaw#2:
EDIT: outdoor growing? Probably around March/April. But I've had the onions/garlic out since December 'cos they can manage it.

Wow, you've got a much longer growing period than I would have guessed. I'm a little envious!
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lickapaw#2:
He's going to end up with a shitload of plants, isn't he?

Probably. And even though he's being childish and ignoring me, I'll still continue to post helpful advice.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I might just grow one massive pumpkin.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Or a chilli! A scotch bonnet the size of a Transit van.
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
quote:
Originally posted by Lickapaw#2:
He's going to end up with a shitload of plants, isn't he?

Probably. And even though he's being childish and ignoring me, I'll still continue to post helpful advice.
That's very big of you.

Mind you, having too many plants is no bad thing - you get to pick out the big, strong ones and plant them.

But then you have to take your stunted, deformed little babies and twist them in half and throw them onto the compost heap. Then turn your back on them, never too think of them again.

Which feels a heartless, but you end up doing it. And you do end up with a plot full of healthy plants.

Note also, B.M. There's an innate feeling of voluptuousness that comes with growing vegetables, and I think part of it is that you're growing these things and they're getting bigger and bigger and rounder and firmer and brighter in colour and you can see your food for the winter there in the soil and anticipate the warm glow of putting them in your mouth and feel the satisfaction that they're yours, to do with as you please.

As a woman I can equate this with having fantastic tits.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Maybe two pumpkins...
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
reach for the stars, Black Mask!
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
Speaking of green things, B.M., I've always wanted to know: what's that underneath your screen name?

It's not black and I'm quite sure it's not a mask either...

[ 15.02.2008, 10:33: Message edited by: Lickapaw#2 ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
It's a broad bean. It could've been Oob's, but she had to go and overdo it with the chorizo!
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
A broad bean? Oh.

Okay.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Is this because of Peak Oil, then?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
No. Olive oil. And bacon fat and lemon juice.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Or do you mean the allotment?
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
I'm stockpiling tins of tuna.

I tried to garden and grow things but I got bored, then I broke my foot so I just gave up and every so often now, when hanging about in my garden I'll come a cross a small patch of resilient, wilded chives or a strangely shaped spring onion. Come peak oil I'll just have to manage on grass or something. My Mum bought me a wind up radio for Christmas, though, so at least I'll be able to monitor other people's gardens. Or something.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Do you have to pay for an allotment, Licky?
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
Nope. I'm on ground level - I've a garden.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
But if you had an allotment...does it cost $$$? I can't imagine having to pay to garden...
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
It generally comes pretty cheap. The guys who lived in my flat before me used to pay for allotment space down the road.

I'm not entirely sure why. They had access to the garden as well. I'm still not very well up on different soil types, so maybe the soil up there was better. But in Brighton you get chalk in the soil so... perhaps?
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
But if you had an allotment...does it cost $$$? I can't imagine having to pay to garden...

I'd be surprised if they asked for American currency though.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Louche:
I'm stockpiling tins of tuna.

Come peak oil I'll just have to manage on grass or something.

Are you getting into Peak Oil, Louche? I bought a book from America recently, all about preparing for a crisis.

It's a great read, though obviously a bit USA biased (chapters on the best guns to get and that), but the food storage thing is quite depressing. The basic conclusion is that there is no way of storing food which will stop it either going stale/mouldy or losing its nutritional value. I did read somewhere that honey is the exception to this, but that may be an urban myth - and I imagine that honey would get a bit boring. "...and is there honey still for tea?" "Er, yes, I'm afraid so. And breakfast. And lunch."

The book shows you how to store tins in rotation, and you have to keep replacing them. I started looking at use by dates in the supermarket and pretty much nothing seems to last more than a year (though that may be a marketing scam).

I was thinking of keeping rabbits and having honey for breakfast and rabbit for tea most days. Maybe the other way round on Sundays or something.
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
If you can find a flat bit of corrugated metal or something and leave it on the ground for a while you can get insects.

Mix them in with your honey, you're laughing.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
You need something to feed to the rabbits, remember. And also if they just kept breeding with their siblings you'd eventually wind up with super-retardo rabbits that kept dying. It takes longer to get there than it does with human inbreeding, but you'll get there eventually.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
I read Last Light when you told me to, ages ago, and now I am reading it again because it was all I could find in the dining room to take for the train (the other options were Nigella Bites or Jamie Oliver gays round Italy with some fish).

When I first read it I got all excited and bought a proper book on it, but unfortunately I got drunk and left it on a train. But I am, like, getting into it. I have told everyone at work that we're all going to die, but they don't, for the most part, seem overly concerned.

I already have my mate's pet bunny earmarked, though. In case of emergency.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
But if you had an allotment...does it cost $$$? I can't imagine having to pay to garden...

As implied, they're meant for people that don't have their own gardens and are an ancient institution in the UK. They're also used as a refuge by henpecked husbands in sitcoms. You have a plot of land about 20ft x 30ft I suppose, with space for a shed for tools and a chair to sit in and smoke your pipe.

I believe there is quite a waiting list for them, which is quite encouraging as it means a lot of people are growing their own vegetables, and the rest of us have somewhere to go and steal from when the shit hits the fan.
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
Definitely.

I pass three or four fields of allotments on my way to work.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
There's some near the M60. I always think, ooh, how horrible, all those exhaust fumes must really contaminate your cabbage. But I suppose when it comes to the crunch I'd be ready to break someone's nose for an exhaust fumey cabbage.
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
Me dad's got a bit of a thing for picking mushrooms next to busy roads. He brought some back once and I tried some. They tasted wrong, to put it simply. And although I made that very clear, he didn't seem to pick up on what I was saying and suggested several times that I take a big bag of them home to cook for Mike and me.

I wouldn't recommend it, personally.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
I was taught as a child not to pick blackberries from the sides of roads because of the EXHAUST FUMES. The carbon would KILL YOU TO DEATH.

Back in the day when blackberries were blackberries and people ate them rather than emailed on them.

Quick! Someone play the Hovis advert music.
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
Ey oop, Louche. Ah remember the days when you rode yer bike oop 'ill. Mahnd you, it were worth it when you got to 'top.

Hovis. A free roll with every loaf.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
You have a plot of land about 20ft x 30ft I suppose, with space for a shed for tools and a chair to sit in and smoke your pipe.

20 x 30? That's hardly room enough to grow food!
 
Posted by Keef (Member # 27) on :
 
I'm in my second year of gardening and my advice is...

Grow stuff that doesn't take much effort in your first year, potatoes, onions, carrots and courgettes will all grow easily in the british climate. Potatoes should be about a foot apart, same for onions. Carrots can be much closer but you'd be surprised how big courgette plants can get - plant a good 18" apart.

Slugs - a small dish of old beer (ale, not lager - they like the yeast) will attract them to a pleasant drowning. You'll have to empty it daily though.

I'm planting blackberry and raspberry bushes tomorrow as it happens - they'll grow anywhere, light or shade but need to be pruned every year. By the way, it's not the carbon on roadside berries that'll hurt you (in fact carbon is good for you in some ways), it's the other really dodgy chemicals in exhaust fumes that settle on the berries. But this is only important on busy roads. If you find a country lane with blackberries growing, munch away!

Herbs can be grown in pots by your BBQ - handy for adding that sprig of rosemary while you cook.

Start seeds off in small trays in a greenhouse/conservatory/window sill as others have said - they'll get a great head start.

I grew lettuces and cabbages last year and regretted it - the lettuces were completely eaten by slugs and snails and I only just rescued a couple of cabbages.

Various websites are out there to help you, the BBC gardening site is pretty good and a google will obviously bring up a whole host of sites too.

That's about all I can think of now, if you want any more specific questions answering (I haven't had time to read all the thread here at work) then fire away...
 
Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
 
ooh, I thought of some more things!

My parents grow their salad greens in pots - the long kind that are like 1x3 or something. They then can take them inside and pick the greens directly from the pot to the salad bowl, and it keeps the bugs down.

When I lived in Miami I decided I wanted a vegetable garden, but I only had a townhouse with a 5x10 back yard. I really wanted to grow just about everything, so I actually planted corn and watermelon and other things that take up loads of space. Everything grew just fine, so it is possible to grow in tiny little spaces, but you have to be careful about groupings, etc. to make the most out of it. I still had to buy produce at the grocer, so it was more of a vanity garden, but it was still fun.

Also, ralph, they have public gardens here too - there are a few big ones in Boston, but the plots are a bit smaller than 20x30.

[ 15.02.2008, 15:37: Message edited by: rooster ]
 
Posted by jnhoj (Member # 286) on :
 
I had a sausage sandwich for lunch and now im fucking bored, after last nights excitement I don't know what to do with myself.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:


Failing that... ukulele advice?


oh wow! i r fail. i never answered your banjo question. dont spend a lot of money, was the advice of my contact in the banjo underworld. go second- hand. and make sure it has a straight neck. i dont even know what that means, and what a bendy- necked banjo would look like. i reckon if i asked him for advice about the ukelele, hed say something similar. advice i would give is- this is personal advice from me- as someone who spends quite a lot of time watching people play the uke* for some reason or other- is if you learning a tune on the ukelele, make it one with a rousing rhythm that you can stamp along to. theres REALLY nothing much cooler than a man strumming a ukelele and stamping. and a woman? youd better charter a spaceship to a new and undiscovered cooliverse.


* not quite enough time to use the term 'uke' with complete confidence, but im going to use it anyway because i live crazy like that.
 
Posted by Harlequin (Member # 454) on :
 
I know how to keep slugs away from vegetable patches. Plant garlic amongst the vegetables as garlic is a powerful slug repellent. Garlic oil squeezed from garlic plants can also kill slugs on contact. It is far more environmentally friendly than using slug pellets.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I spent Sunday digging and weeding. The plot is fucking riddled with weeds. There's a dense grass growing all over the earth, you stamp the spade in and you can hear a crunch, there's a carpet of weed-roots a few inches under the soil. Other weeds have thick tuber-like roots and broad green leaves on thick stems. There are some rogue spuds growing down there, too.

Anyway, next weekend we may be planting, so...

And thanks for the advice, Dee Em. A stamping woman is, indeed, extraordinary. I got the uke for my banuna's birthday. She is showing great assiduity in her practice regimen.
 
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
 
Pour a weedkiller over everything (one of the ones that goes inert when it hits soil) then hire a rotivator and churn the hell out of it for a weekend. Digging fresh ground is backbreaking and thankless. Other than that, there are so many disheartening things that can go wrong that the best thing is to buy the RHS book of vegetables and do what it tells you.
 
Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
 
this year I've decided to try the approach outlined in this book.

We will have four 4x4 raised beds and I've already drawn up a plan for the grids. This is supposed to be an easy entry-level gardening approach, so thought I'd pass it along.
 
Posted by sabian (Member # 6) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
You have a plot of land about 20ft x 30ft I suppose, with space for a shed for tools and a chair to sit in and smoke your pipe.

....

it means a lot of people are growing their own vegetables

Bollocks, allotments aren't for growing shit, it's just cheaper than a flat you rent for your mistress.
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
I want to grow some veg here (Sweden) but I only have a balcony... at first I was worried that the near-pitch darkness might stop anything growing, but as that's morphing not-so-slowly into psychotic 24-hour light I think things might be ok.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
summer is worse than winter if you can't sleep with the light...

grow tomatoes, they'll love it.
 
Posted by sabian (Member # 6) on :
 
Square ones
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
During my years as a working-from-home freelancer I became extremely adept at sleeping during daylight.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
lol..

when's the baby due ? you'll never sleep again.
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sabian:
Bollocks, allotments aren't for growing shit, it's just cheaper than a flat you rent for your mistress.

That made me chuckle a little, and then I noticed how they classified it in their article architecture.

quote:

The Register » Management »

"Management" - lol.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I spent Sunday digging and weeding. The plot is fucking riddled with weeds. There's a dense grass growing all over the earth, you stamp the spade in and you can hear a crunch, there's a carpet of weed-roots a few inches under the soil. Other weeds have thick tuber-like roots and broad green leaves on thick stems. There are some rogue spuds growing down there, too.

Anyway, next weekend we may be planting, so...

So how did you make out with your planting, BM?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
That well, eh?
 
Posted by Harlequin (Member # 454) on :
 
Many years ago when I lived at home with my parents they used to grow tons of stuff in their garden. There was a vegable patch at the top and side of the garden where they used to grow mint, tomatoes and other things. Most of the gardens in our street had stuff growing in them as well.

This was back in the 1970s. Since then though growing your own food has become less and less popular and loads of allotments have been sold off by councils for housing developments which is a shame.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Harlequin:
my parents they used to grow tons of stuff in their garden...

Including a son.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Harlequin:
Since then though growing your own food has become less and less popular and loads of allotments have been sold off by councils for housing developments which is a shame.

Are you complaining about the government making affordable housing for people down on their luck?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Allotments rock. You turn up every couple of weeks, lean on a shovel, drink a can of Old Speckled Hen, then order loads of fruit and vegetables from Ocado. It really makes you feel at one with the earth.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
So what did you end up growing, dude? What was your haul for a season of hard labor in the dirt?
 
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
 
I’m thinking of growing some herbs on my windowsill. Yup yup. Deliciousnesses.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Having Fresh herbs on tap is excellent. Being able to pull a sprig of rosemary out of your garden is and chucking it straight in a pan is brilliant. Like dogs.

Buying herbs (unless you're talking about some red light dirty with a TMO sauce pot) is rubbish. Like cats.

[ 10.12.2008, 07:47: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
Having Fresh herbs on tap is excellent. Being able to pull a sprig of rosemary out of your garden is and chucking it straight in a pan is brilliant. Like dogs.

Absolutely. There's nothing like pulling a dog out of your garden and chucking it straight in a pan. Better to shave it first, but it doesn't matter too much.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
When I move to the country I am going to grow dogs.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
You're a woman who owns a dog. Don't you already have all the necessary tools to grow dogs?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I think she probably needs another dog.
 
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
 
Do you need an allottment to grow dogs? And how does one sow them?
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
You're a woman who owns a dog. Don't you already have all the necessary tools to grow dogs?

Technically, it's my mother's dog, so I will need my own dog when I move to the country. And a Barbour. And probably a gun. Serendipitously, I already have the green wellies.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I was assuming it was a boy dog so you could just borrow it for a bit, hence the "you're a woman" thing. That would work wouldn't it?
 
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Louche:
Technically, it's my mother's dog, so I will need my own dog when I move to the country. And a Barbour. And probably a gun. Serendipitously, I already have the green wellies.

You'll also need goats. And bees. Definitely bees.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
And llamas.

It's a girl dog, Cherry. TCL named it, remember?
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I don't remember much. Well. you need to find a man to impregnate your mother's dog then.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
That isn't an offer.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I went to a wedding at a llama farm that was also a vineyard.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
My mother's dog cannot be impregnanted.

This is not a challenge, by the way.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
A bit of hardcore Barrio Sésamo taking-your-llama-to-the-dentist action

Work safe and completely pointless as it's in Spanish. My first wife used to sing this song, that's all. And I just remembered it. So I looked it up.

My incredibly sexy ex-girlfriend Raquel used to sing it as well, now I think about it. Maybe I'm naturally attracted to llama fans.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
My first wife

How many have you had?
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
two
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Excellent. My entire department HAS to go to an emergency meeting at three. People are being pulled out of important meetings and training to attend. Nobody knows what this is about, but considering my company has been making cutbacks recently and none of us are customer facing, there is obvious speculation.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
That doesn't have much to do with vegetables sorry.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Do you want my job, Cherry? I am packing it in shortly.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Mainly because it is making me a vegetable, just to keep things on track.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
Excellent. My entire department HAS to go to an emergency meeting at three. People are being pulled out of important meetings and training to attend. Nobody knows what this is about, but considering my company has been making cutbacks recently and none of us are customer facing, there is obvious speculation.

Fucking hell. Just before christmas as well. I hope this goes OK for you.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Maybe you're all getting a bonus!
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
It wasn't very exciting. Apparently there are changes to reporting lines or something. I'm not quite sure what the urgency was.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
You missed a trick there, Cherry, you should have fabricated some dire news then sat back and smiled as the sympathy and love poured in.
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
It wasn't very exciting. Apparently there are changes to reporting lines or something. I'm not quite sure what the urgency was.

In my experience, it's not the all-hands emergency department meetings you need to be worried about.

The first-thing-in-the-morning meetings with no advance notice, on the other hand...
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
It wasn't very exciting. Apparently there are changes to reporting lines or something. I'm not quite sure what the urgency was.

lol. They used to do that at DMG all the time. Work everyone up into a tiz, and then announce something either banal - like they were changing the server over and if you'd been wanting to come in on Sunday to work, then you couldn't - or something that was actively good news, usually that a publisher had been sacked.

It seems a bit crass to call an emergency meeting to announce something that isn't mass redundancy, as that's what everyone's going to assume it is anyway. It's like saying to your partner "Can you come down to the living room because you and I have to have a serious talk" and then announcing that you're thinking of arranging the DVDs by year rather than alphabetically
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
you're thinking of arranging the DVDs by year rather than alphabetically

Someone on another forum posted these pics recently of a bookshop in San Francisco (where LSD clearly grows on trees).

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Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
That's well pretty, though!
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
talking of LSD, and sesame street (well i mentioned it earlier), how about some of this.

[ 10.12.2008, 12:09: Message edited by: mart ]
 
Posted by LowLevel (Member # 30) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
... how about some of this

You can imagine the phone call from the Pointer Sisters' Agent... 'Yeah, Ruth - It's for Jim Henson.. He just wants you guys to count to 12.. Then blurt out some random numbers in freakish accents'
 


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