It’s autumn again, so when I draw a bath I make it quite a bit hotter than I would in summer. With this comes The Sadness. Have you ever had that? You step into the bath, you lower yourself in and this totally overwhelming sadness comes upon you. It lasts for about five seconds and then wears off.
Anybody here recognize this?
Anyone here know any kind of explanation for it, psychological, chemical, biological or any other –cal?
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
I get this! Accompanied by a nostalgic yearning for something or other, and goosepimples.
This can also strike at certain moments when outside, in the dark, a bit cold, walking past cosy-looking lit-up windows.
Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
Oh ralph. It's not The Disorder, although lack of sunlight does tend to do my head in in the long run. It's exactly what I described and nothing more. Only in the bath, only in autumn and winter and only for about five secs. After that I'm fine and usually content with watching the glass filled with brandy surfing the bath, heating up.
So herbs' affliction is not mine. Pity, it would've been fun to share an affliction with someone online.
Edited for ralph instead of Ralph.
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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by pettibone: Edited for ralph instead of Ralph.
I think I love you.
Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
You're not ralph Partridge by any chance, are you?
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
quote:Originally posted by pettibone: You step into the bath, you lower yourself in and this totally overwhelming sadness comes upon you.
Take a shower.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by pettibone: You're not ralph Partridge by any chance, are you?
No. You're not this person, are you?
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
I have a daylight light against S.A.D, works a treat.
I get the sadness when I wake up all toasty and warm from under my duvet and poke my toe out into the subzero of the bedroom and that first shivver of the day creeps from my toe, up my leg, round the horn and into my spine shaking me awake to another dark, wet morning.
But wet, dark, grey Sunday afternoons on a sofa, feeling off colour drinking beer and watching *utter crap on the telly are great.
*Unless they ever show that new BenElton alleged comedy with Arsehole O'Hanlon and Smell Giddycock what was on for the first time last week, I'd rather have cancer back than watch pile of shit again. (I only watched to see if it was as shit as suspected, it wasn't - it was even shitter)
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Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
Well squeegy, you have a point there, but I wasn't complaining. I wanted insight. Ok then, and a little sympathy maybe, but not much.
ralph, my browser says Claire needs a plug-in, ain't that snigger.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
quote:Originally posted by pettibone: ..... So herbs' affliction is not mine. Pity, it would've been fun to share an affliction with someone online.
Oh but it is. Ralph's SAD interjection came between us, making it look like I was agreeing with him, whereas it was the bath-induced mega-sadness I was empathising with. Extra-effective if it's just getting dark outside.
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
quote:Originally posted by pettibone: Well squeegy, you have a point there
Not really, I was just being an arsehole. Showers are (IMHO) far more stark and miserable than baths. If you are in a stark, miserable mood that is.
Posted by saltrock (Member # 622) on :
I had a bath with Ellie tonight and we washed each other's hair. It was . Usually I refuse to get in the bath with her because she has to have it so much colder than me. [This is my daughter we are talking about here, just in case like].
So, I would suggest that to prevent "THE SADNESS OF THE BATH" you take someone else in there with you. I don't suggest you try and take your cat in there with you though, they tend to get upset and make big, long scratches up your arm Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
That someone else I take a bath with, do I have to let them get in first so The Sadness creeps into them and spends it’s powers? After which I can then step in without any discomfort whatsoever?
It’s a bit like having your food tasted so you won’t get murdered by someone from another family, that is.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
You could drown a small animal in the bath before getting in.
Or just have showers, which is far more hygenic.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Nonsense - people who take showers never wash their feet properly for fear of breaking their necks.
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ringo: Or just have showers, which is far more hygenic.
Uhhhhhhh......... Yeah, showers. Good plan.
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
But why would you be sad getting into a nice steamy warm bath at this time of year? Is good.
I'm with the Dazzler about the duvet leaving dread though.
Also is there a particular daylight lamp you would recommend Darryn?
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
quote:Originally posted by Boy Racer: But why would you be sad getting into a nice steamy warm bath at this time of year?
It is inexplicable, to be sure. Once I'm in properly, it's fine, but the initial lowering of the body into the hot water brings on a melancholic nostalgia. I thought I was the only one who got this. Maybe, as there are now two of us in the world, it means there's a physical explaination, like the contrast between the skin's temperature and the water, or some such.
Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
quote:Originally posted by herbs:
quote:Originally posted by Boy Racer: But why would you be sad getting into a nice steamy warm bath at this time of year?
It is inexplicable, to be sure. Once I'm in properly, it's fine, but the initial lowering of the body into the hot water brings on a melancholic nostalgia. I thought I was the only one who got this. Maybe, as there are now two of us in the world, it means there's a physical explaination, like the contrast between the skin's temperature and the water, or some such.
Well, I was hoping someone could give an answer along these lines, actually. I've thought about the temperature difference, but you get it when your skin is warm. Also if a hot bath is taken in summer, it doesn't happen. Maybe it should be checked in the middle of winter, when there's no leaves falling or anything. The temperature thing would be there, but possible mental seasonal disorders could be ignored.Sorry herbs, you're not off the mentalist hook yet.
ben, old people have that. And teh unfit.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Most people in this country are unfit and half the people in this forum are old - I can do you a Venn diagram if you want.
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
A shower is far superior to a bath. Baths are for the elderly or miners in front of coal fires. There's a hint of the working class wife-beater about a bath. Showers are modern, they have more of nudey dancing in the rain about them AND you can have a wee while you're cleaning your teeth thus bypassing Seasonal Adjustment Disorder by conveniently warming your legs.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
You can effectively clean your feet at the same time as showering by leaving the plug in and letting the build up of water soften the thick dead skin, before either scrubbing with a brush, or rubbing down with one of those cheesegrater/stone things.
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
Thick dead skin? Are you a hobbit?
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Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vanilla Online Persona: Showers are modern, they have more of nudey dancing in the rain about them AND you can have a wee while you're cleaning your teeth thus bypassing Seasonal Adjustment Disorder by conveniently warming your legs.
Ray Winstone never got ass-raped in a bath.
Also: look at great scenes from cinema - you can either romp in the tub with Michele Breton and Anita Pallenberg (Performance) or get filleted in the shower by 'Mother' (or, worse, Vince Vaughan).
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
I'll see your prison bottom fondling and raise you multiple shower-head frigging in Sex and Lucia.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
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Posted by MonkeySusan (Member # 569) on :
Forget the sadness. What about the fear? A far more insidious beast.
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
quote:Originally posted by MonkeySusan: A far more insidious beast.
That'll be the lessor spotted horny-toed Ringo.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vanilla Online Persona: I'll see your prison bottom fondling and raise you multiple shower-head frigging in Sex and Lucia.
Pfft - I'll see your frigging and raise you a foot-job in 9 Songs.
Also: showers have seen probably the most desperately unerotic scenes in all of culture. Bleach from your mind, if you will, Sly Stallone and Shaz Stone gulping and grinding in Teh Specialist.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
They don't come much sexier than Presumin' Ed in the bath.
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Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
[blackman laugh]Haa haa haa haaaah[/blackman laugh]
Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
There's no bath vs. shower thing. A shower always, a bath when needed. Standing in a bathtub showering is venndiagramatically asking to die.
It's revealing how people perceive the principle of having a bath. Vanilla obviously has issues with her/his upbringing. No doubt she/he feels like lying in the arms of Arthur Scargill when having a bath. (I tried to sing this to the tune of "Lying In The Arms of Mary" , but it doesn't seem to fit properly.)
Ringo appears to use women's pedicural utensils.
MonkeySusan has just explained to us the meaning of hydrophobia. It comes with heavy drug abuse.
ben, yes please. I'd like a diagram. Also, Anita Pallenberg will look as if she's been in the bath since Performance these days. But I hear you and you're right. It has nothing to do with hygiene. It's a matter of culture, of taste, of sex, of Krause bodies.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I just like to get clean, and like the 'glowing' sensation you get from properly exfoliated feet. Nothing es sexier than sensitive post-cleaning feet touching cool fresh sheets.
Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: [blackman laugh]Haa haa haa haaaah[/blackman laugh]
Sounds like one of those places people go to jump off. " What's the sirens for then?" "It's the ambulance." " Why?" "Someone jumped off Blackman Laugh again. The season of sadness has come upon us early this year."
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
it's a bit 70s to jump off a cliff isn't it? These days it's all about charcoal burners and people off the internet. I'd like to think that when I die, they'll be at least one person off the internet with me.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: I'd like to think that when I die, they'll be at least one person off the internet with me.
I hope it's me.
Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
Jumping off a cliff will never go out of fashion. As a way to end one's life, nothing compares.
As far as this internet goes, in a few years' time nobody will bother with it anymore. A fad, a mere fad.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
which TMO member does that picture remind you of?
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Is it Roy?
Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
That's ralph with his clooney dentures in, isn't it? Or Roy. It could be Roy with ralph's clooney dentures in.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ringo: Is it Roy?
no, it's you.
Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
Ringo looks like Roy or ralph with ralph's clooney dentures in?
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Oh
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
To be fair, nobody has seen me, Ringo or George Clooney in the same room.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
come on man, George Clooney is sexy. And NOT suicidal.
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Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
I'm sure that people like Roy, Benny The Ball and Frank are just pleasant figments of my imagination. They're always there, keeping me vaguely amused without ever causing too much of a ruckus. Virtual lobotomy or something. Lovely.
Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
quote:Originally posted by Roy: To be fair, nobody has seen me, Ringo or George Clooney in the same room.
With whom?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
Frank? Frank Power? Jeez-ass dude, that was like, a year ago.
Posted by pettibone (Member # 838) on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Roy: [QB] To be fair, nobody has seen me, Ringo or
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
quote:Originally posted by pettibone:
quote:Originally posted by Roy: To be fair, nobody has seen me, Ringo or George Clooney in the same room.
With whom?
What? Do you want to add some more people into the mix?
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: Frank? Frank Power? Jeez-ass dude, that was like, a year ago.
I din say they were all here at the same time, did I? Cripes.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
maybe Frank is chained up round LuCId's house, one of six men forming a 'human pool table' in the basement.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Now that's terrifying and grotesque. Trying to remember the colours in 'human snooker' - black and blue, pink, brown... red?
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I don't really like this thread any more Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
sorry, it's horrible isn't it. I don't know where that came from.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
Oh, Benway Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
Oh, Roy Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Roy: To be fair, nobody has seen me, Ringo or George Clooney in the same room.
Or me.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
Me and George would get on okay, I think. I don't think he'd like you too much, ralph.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Roy: Me and George would get on okay, I think. I don't think he'd like you too much, ralph.
You've got to be kidding. George and I are practically soul mates. We both loved him in O Brother Where Art Thou and we both thought he sucked in A Perfect Storm. What you don't know about George could fill a novel.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
Oh yeah? Do you like him in Solaris? Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Roy: Oh yeah? Do you like him in Solaris?
If you knew George like I do you wouldn't have to ask.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
Whoops
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Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben:
quote:Originally posted by Vanilla Online Persona: I'll see your prison bottom fondling and raise you multiple shower-head frigging in Sex and Lucia.
Pfft - I'll see your frigging and raise you a foot-job in 9 Songs.
9 songs is the most chillingly un-sexy film ever. fact. and you're pitting it against sex and lucia? rookie mistake.
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. Usually I refuse to get in the bath with her because she has to have it so much colder than me. [This is my daughter we are talking about here, just in case like]. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
