As some of you may know, my wife and I have a little baby on the way. Unsurprisingly, issues about how we're going to bring the child up have been constantly on my mind since we first 'got the news', as it were.
Anyway, along with all the other stuff like walking, speaking, reading and writing, it occurred to me yesterday (while hungover) that it might be an idea to compile a bunch of mixtapes on the past five decades of rock and roll (rock, pop w/evs) to give the child a bit of a head start, culturally speaking.
Some may think this a stupid idea, but it would be even stupider *not* to at least think it through: instead of leaving this matter to a philistine, untrustworthy, atomised mainstream media (see Benway's promo thread and the bland predictability of the 'top 100') why not set the tyke off in a whole range of different directions while also give he, she or it a reasonable idea of how music has developed since the birth of rock and pop in the 1950s?
What I need to ask you, forum, is this: what would you include on the 1950s tape? I guess we can all readily suggest a couple of dozen tracks for the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s - but the 50s (even to an old-timer like me) still feel pretty distant.
What would be on your 1950s mixtape?
What would be 'essentials' for the other decades?
What would you put on your personal uLTiMaT3 m1XXt4pE for a ligglebaby?
[ 07.02.2005, 09:47: Message edited by: ben ]
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
I got a 3 cd box set of 50's Rock and Roll for xmas, plus a free CD from Mojo of a similar ilk about the same time, neither of which will see the light of my CDplayer - maybe as a welome to the world present for your wunderkind I could send them to you?
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Thanks Waynster - that's very kind. What's your email address?
Also: which tracks would you choose for the babytape?
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
50s artists which will never sound dated:
Little Richard (for pure energy) - Tutti frutti, Long tall Sally, Good golly Miss Molly
Chuck Berry (for skill lyrics) - Reelin' and rockin', Brown eyed handsome man, Memphis Tennessee
50s artists which are dated, but good value if you're in the right mood:
Fats Domino (for nostalgia and simple pleasure) - Blueberry Hill, Walking to New Orleans, Ain't that a shame
Les Paul and Mary Ford (for the insane techno of multi-track, multi-speed innovation, 50s style) - How High the Moon, Little Rock Getaway, The World Is Waiting for the Sunrise
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
waynster at gmail
Mmm.. from the 1950's I really couldn't say as its its definately not my era. In fact I have always found the glorious 1950's images of American vulgar and tasteless - I even class grease as probably the worst film ever made.
But on to what to make for a mix tape, being non-decade depedant for a baby? I really don't know - I'll have a think...
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: Hey hepcats of the Music forum.
As some of you may know, my wife and I have a little baby on the way. Unsurprisingly, issues about how we're going to bring the child up have been constantly on my mind since we first 'got the news', as it were. [/b]
Sorry for the not-quite-on-topicness, but as an aside, when are you due?
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
good call on the little richard (my dad used to sing long tall sally to me when really small as his dad with him)'Lucille''The Girl Cant Help It' also good call on the selections of my fave chuck berry tunes but you missed 'my marie'? John Lee Hooker 'Boom Boom', 'Boogey Woogey'? Muddy Waters 'Got My Mojo Woikin' 'I'm Ready'. I have quite a bit in my collection of blues and old rock and roll BB king as well as the above, I havent got the faintest idea how to send music to people on'T net feel free to email me tommidob@yahoo.com or tomallport@gmail.com with instructions if im not breakin the law and I will be happy to give you a selection. I am a fervent supporter of cultral encouragement of the young.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
I like all those slow tuneful ones, like on the third side of the Grease double album. 'Raining on Prom Night', etc. Very good for getting junior off to sleep after too much jiving to Rock around the Clock, I'd wager.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
Whatever you play it, remember to airguitar along furiously. Especially if they've got mates around for a sleepover.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
One name from the 1950s still rings my bell: Bo Diddley
Well it's more memorable than Otha Ellas Bates McDaniel.
[ 07.02.2005, 11:37: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
I think I got a decent education in 1950s music just riding in the car as my parents listened to the Oldies station. I still tune in to it occasionally, and am pleased that my musical awareness is quite a bit broader than my other friends in their mid twenties (don’t say it Scott, 27 is still MID twenties!). Perhaps you could listen to your local “Golden Oldies” radio for a bit and pick out ones that strike your fancy – who the greats are is so subjective anyway.
BTW, we actually did a bit of playing music through headphones on my belly, but let that drop off a while ago…
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
theres nothing for reverb like an over stuffed babymaker, you might consider going into the effects pedals market
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Thankyou for your excellent suggestions! How perfectly stupid of me not to remember Bo Diddley.
Froopy: 'due' date is 18/03 - D just finished work so is taking a well-earned breather before the 'real work' starts; the five-year programme of pro-house-husband propaganda was, I'm afraid, unsuccessful.
Rooster: my folks exposed me to the "oldies" purgatory that used to be a programme called Sing Something Simple. Never was a radio programme more aptly named. The only two records they ever played were Chanson d'Amour (rat-ta-tat-ta-tat) and that one about "the path was beaten white from footsteps leading to our cabin / and late at night, a hand would knock and there would stand a stranger etc etc" -- think it was about prostitution but cannot be sure, the concept having been alien to me, back in the day. Anyway: no child of mine is going to be exposed to such Easy Listening Hell.
eta: Waynster - I have mailed you. Hard. Right in the g.
[ 07.02.2005, 12:13: Message edited by: ben ]
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
Ben, your next post is going to have to really fucking rock. I hope you've been working on it for years. Honing, refining, delicately chipping away and polishing prose designed to make us all weep.
Because if you of all people waste a 6,000th post with a smilie or a lollol I shall sob.
[ 07.02.2005, 18:38: Message edited by: Louche ]
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
I may be of some assistance. I am five-years into a similar project. First things first, the tape for the birth room. Your good lady wife may attempt to encourage you to provide some sounds that she might like to listen to. It is your job to convince her of her selfishness and start the job properly at the earliest opportunity. In the labour suite our newborns were treated to Jimi Hendrix - Nine to the Universe, Lee Scratch Perry - Super Ape and an Ernest Ranglin Mix Tape.
Once home the Masketeers were weaned on a diet of Ramones, Stones and The Clash. Once walking and talking they expressed a liking for Blur's Song 2 (the Woo-Hoo song) and Hurry Up Harry - Sham 69, then Anarchy in the UK and Ace of Spades. 'Angry Music' they called it. They now have a CD player and small CD collection of their own, mainly AC/DC and Motorhead but they have a fondness, too, for Beachbuggy, particularly their excellent single Killer Bee.
Posted by damo (Member # 722) on :
jerry lewis, little richard, carl perkins, bo diddly, chuck berry, john coltrane, cliff richard.
i'll leave you to decide what i think is most important.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by Louche: Ben, your next post is going to have to really fucking rock. I hope you've been working on it for years. Honing, refining, delicately chipping away and polishing prose designed to make us all weep.
Because if you of all people waste a 6,000th post with a smilie or a lollol I shall sob.
I'm so sorry.
In fairness, the idea I had for a mega-post was basically a short horror story featuring Dr Benway - with the best will in the world, the forum's probably had quite enough of those already. Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
Dang could you be my Dad, circa 1973 please?
I have a scribbled list that I started to put together yesterday - music I would want my child to be introduced to:
Black Dog - Led Zeppelin Strange choice, but it's because of the fantastic yet almost contradictory drumming by Mr Bonham (listen and see what I mean) - this would be to hopefully expand the childs awareness to rythmn and timing.
Blitzkrieg Bop- the Ramones To completely contradict what I said above. Also their cover of 'Surfin' Bird' as I guess this is a song a kiddie would love - It's lyrics are not unlike the teletubbies I guess in a manner, and thus easily adoptable to a toddler.
Angel - Jimi Hendrix Beautiful, almost lullaby type song, and a perfect introduction to one of the most important people (for me personally) in music.
Then there's a pile to go through from Ian Dury, the Wildhearts (Coz Daddyoves 'em!), Janes Addiction, The Clash, Bjork - I could go on all day, but I am far too busy being a kid to even consider fathering one.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by Waynster: Ian Dury,
Truesay, but you've got to move fast when Plaistow Patricia kicks off.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by damo: john coltrane, cliff richard.
What the..?
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
I gave up trying to "educate" my kids in the ways of good music many years ago, but I think a lot of children do naturally enjoy punk/fast rock, as mentioned by Black Mask. My 7-year-old went through a period of listening to The Clash's first album on headphones at bedtime, and he was into the Pistols for a short while too.
My 14-year-old has been buying his own CDs for several years, starting with really shitty boyband singles but slowly getting more selective. He got me to buy the Jay-Z & Linkin Park album the other day, which may be mainstream but at least has some life and aggression to it. Same goes for the likes of Green Day which he's also into just now.
When it comes to older music, he's delightfully unaware of the pseud filter which is applied to everything, so you can't just like music because you like it but it has to pass the Cool Test (which changes all the time). So ABBA may have been considered cool for the last ten years or so, but prior to that was thought to be the height of shite. My son will naively and sweetly ask me if I have any Jean-Michel Jarre, for example, or that music out of The Exorcist (yes, I've got a bit of J-M J, no, haven't got Tubular Bells).
He also comes into my study, where I have my CDs and stereo, and says, "have you got any more stuff like Fortress Europe by Asian Dub Foundation?" and I say, "Pray, be seated," and we settle down to an hour of me darting around the CD collection, doing a sort of vague connections improvised radio show. Sometimes he has a pen and paper and notes down the tracks or albums he likes the sound of.
It's worth waiting for that age group rather than bothering too much when they're weeny and can barely get their heads round Baa Baa Black Sheep.
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
When I was revewing records for a certain publication, I was sent a full set of Punk Rock Baby CDs. They didn't end up in the 'no' box like most promos: instead they created a whole new box. A box nobody knows about, not even my sister or my wife. The Punk Rock Baby Box. In the PRBB reside the full set of punk / dance / rock / 80s / hip-hop baby CDs, plus a pink bib I bought for a friend's child and never gave to her, and two tiny bootees with flowers on. Rather than provide your toddler with mix tapes, these let you soothe your baby to sleep with songs that they will subliminally recognise, and therefore love, for the rest of their lives. That's the idea, anyway... Oh also, I think Black Mask and Dang should get together and write a guide to parenting. They have clearly taken over from LowLewel as joint Be(a)st Dad. Also there is a big gap in UK market for hip / fun parenting guides - especially written by men! It would rule!
[ 08.02.2005, 07:46: Message edited by: London ]
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
White Riot (nursery version) wouldn't have sounded out of place on Sandinista actually.
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
The Cds are Excellezzzzzzzz....... zzzz......z....
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
lol - excellent. The 'LOVE' & 'HATE' scratch mittens are genius.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
ben, do you have a house full of baby-related garbage?
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
Londoe, can you mp3 some of those tracks ? Beckett needs new nursery music..
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
I sure can! I'll swap you for a new picture. I know what one I want and everything.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: ben, do you have a house full of baby-related garbage?
Yes! We went to Bristol on Sunday - Bristol - to get a Mamas & Papas 'travel system'. We have about 11 pairs of scratch mittens. We have books galore (incl. Teh Joy of teh Fatehrhood) and we have a baby-shaped hole in our lives waiting to be filled.
Babies! Babies! Babies!
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
cool...
You mail me and I'll work out where I can pick up the converted MP3's and all that..
Anyone else want a retagging while I'm on holiday ?
I'm quite enjoying this holiday really, I've decided to quit work when I go back and then maybe buy a record shop thats for sale here in the dam if the paperwork looks good..
It'll prolly look shit though and the rents quite high but if it looks like its a goer then I might be a shop keeper !
Either way I'm quitting, Femke's going to work at the UNi and I'll get more time with Beckett and that's a big woo as I missed out on so much with Summer - So we might be poor but we'll be happy..
(I hope)
Posted by damo (Member # 722) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask:
quote:Originally posted by damo: john coltrane, cliff richard.
What the..?
mock all you want mask but without cliff we'd never have the shadows and then we'd never have had the apache break as performed by the incredible bongo band. which means there would have been an apache sized hole missing in the breaks in the block parties.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
what are the regulations regarding picture tags these days?
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: what are the regulations regarding picture tags these days?
there are none, I'm a fickle creature
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
well, I'd like to re-submit my application for a grade 1 picture tag. I've lost the forms though - can somebody email them to me? I can do pdf, but not .doc.
do we choose our own?
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
quote:Originally posted by London: A box nobody knows about, not even my sister or my wife.
Dude, you like totally showed me the box aaaages ago. Or were you talking about the other sister?
[ 08.02.2005, 09:31: Message edited by: Uber Trick ]
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
I would like a re-tag, if they're going...
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: well, I'd like to re-submit my application for a grade 1 picture tag. I've lost the forms though - can somebody email them to me? I can do pdf, but not .doc.
do we choose our own?
Please send application in triplicate to me:
editor@themoononline.com
and I'll see hat I cando
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
I thought it sounded better if I said that nobody knew about it. Thanks for ruining the illusion there. *sihg*
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
quote:Originally posted by Octavia: I would like a re-tag, if they're going...
twhat
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: twhat
Nao! The 'twhat' tag belongs to Benway! He earned it fair and square! Anyway, if we're going to have a retagging thread can we start a new thread for it. We're tramping over a wondrous thread that contains my three favourite things - music, babies and love/hate tattoos. It's not right!!!!!
[ 08.02.2005, 09:42: Message edited by: London ]
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
I agree.. Just mail tag requests to me.. I'll see what I can do before Monday
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
That Benway's a bit obsessed by picture tags.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
London, are you calling me a twat?
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
Yeah!
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
sorry, TMO!
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben:
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: ben, do you have a house full of baby-related garbage?
Yes! We went to Bristol on Sunday - Bristol - to get a Mamas & Papas 'travel system'. We have about 11 pairs of scratch mittens. We have books galore (incl. Teh Joy of teh Fatehrhood) and we have a baby-shaped hole in our lives waiting to be filled.
Babies! Babies! Babies!
Don't get a moses basket and don't get a baby bath. They're both a waste of money and space.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
Oooo - I need to make them smaller
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Nice tags, tarts.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Too late for the bath but big 10-4 on the Moses. Any recommended must-haves?
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Paternity leave.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Nappies.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I think you should get abig pair of those fake tits you fill with milk so that you can pretend that you - the father - are breastfeeding Baby Harlequin.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Isn't most baby paraphenalia a waste of space, just pressed upon dithering hormonal women in the 'layette' department of John Lewis, wanting to do their best for junior?
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
camera video camera ear plugs (for if you need to sleep and the good lady is on baby duty) gripe water plenty of sleep suits gel for eye bags
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Champagne, oysters, unpasteurised cheeses.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
LIVER
[edit]
Chew Toys, all Beckett does is drool and chew and if you take his chew toy away he screams..
Here have a photo:
[ 08.02.2005, 10:32: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
Posted by damo (Member # 722) on :
love. lots of love.
and patience.
oh and booze.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Cliff Richard and John Coltrane.
Posted by damo (Member # 722) on :
you asked for popular music of the 50's. i didn't say they had to be liked by you did i? i didn't even say i liked them. though i do like coltrane. i think skiffle should also get a mention. lonnie donegan (spelling) seemed to have been pretty influential on a couple of bands.
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
I saw a picture of Jake's baby yesterday. He was ruffling through them and I was all scowling and saying "Look, I'm not going to cry if you show me a picture of Clare!" [his 'wife']. He said, all gey, "No! I'm just trying to find the one where she looks the cutest! She is the prettiest baby in the world, you know!" I couldn't tell if he was performing a knowing parody of a new father, or if he was being genuine. The child had big eyes and a cute hat with ears on. It was sweet. My own eyes delivered a few small tears which I blinked away. "I'm just crying because it's cute", I told him. "It's not because you had a kid with someone else after I dumped you, of all the unreasonable things to do." He told me how Clare got mastitis which made her milk taste off, which made the child cry, because the child's world is made of milk, and its world had fallen apart with Clare's dodgy tits. That made me laugh, which frightened the tears away.
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[ 08.02.2005, 10:43: Message edited by: London ]
Posted by saltrock (Member # 622) on :
Fruit cake, if Mrs Ben is breastfeeding, is a must. Full of energy and iron. I will even give you my easy-peasy all in one fruit cake recipe if you want.
Can I also suggest that you don't use lots of baby soapy bubble baths for junior as they can cause no end of skin problems. And, if you are using disposable nappies, no word of a lie, go for the Superdrug's own brand ones. They are ace and cost like, about half of what Pampers and other such ones do.
I want another baby. Any takers?
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Beckett could have Roy, any day.
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
quote:Originally posted by saltrock: I want another baby. Any takers?
Greedy fucker, I'd be happy with one to start with Posted by damo (Member # 722) on :
could we do a tmo kid battlerumblefaceoff? like as if the kids were battle cards like myst?
ie: ability to keep parents awake hours spent in one dirty nappy without crying wigs out when eastenders is on
that kind of thing
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
Saltrock, I've already said that I'd be up for having a weekend child, one to visit and take to teh z00, kick a ball about, go to McDonalds etc. I don't really want to have to deal with a kid in the week though, so I wouldn't want to know about school, or illnesses, or whatever. I wouldn't even want it for the whole weekend, just like a saturday morning if I wasn't feeling too ill. Show it off a bit and then send it back to you.
You can deal with the rest of it, and once it gets to be a teenager, you can keep it for good. I've got too many nutjobs in my family tree, and I can't cope with some surly fucking teen with depression on my case day and night. Nah, you can do that. So, on the plus, it would look alright, dark eyes, unsensitive skin, age well, but it's also going to be depressed from day one. It's up to you.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
God, we're not going to be yawn-talking about babies for the rest of the year are we?
It's bad enough my parents doting on the new kitten:
Mother: and then the vet's nurse said she was the pretiest kitten they'd ever seen!
Me: you don't think they say that to all the owners? She's hardly going to tell you your pet is ugly, is she?
Mother: *faltering* nooo, she genuinely thought she was the prettiest ever...and they see lots of cats...
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
I bet Vogon's womb is like a walnut. And her heart is like a pistachio: one of those clenched tight ones that you can't get open even when you crush it under the leg of your chair.
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
Kryste, imagine that these were your only choices:
1) No babies ever 2) Having Benway's childe and him being a weekend dad
brrr
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
quote: Too late for the bath ...
Don’t worry, in my experience (as a child) this will come in very handy in a couple of years as a pretend boat. Or as a washing basket.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
Y'know in Holland we use a baby 'bucket'
I'll take a photo.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Bath with the baby. You can use it as a loofah.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: Any recommended must-haves?
Absolute essential if you have any hope of retaining your sanity is that Mrs Ben breastfeeds, and that she continues breastfeeding for 18 months at a bare minumum.
Doctors and midwives will sneer at the thought, and tell her to abandon the idea the moment she expresses any doubt, but persevere. The child ends up amazingly healthy, it settles within seconds in the middle of the night and you save a complete fortune in formula milk and all the accessories. It also does wonders for the mother's recovery and general wellbeing in ways which are beyond my understanding but are clearly visible to the eye.
Experienced female posters will have to comment on the downsides (bursting breasts, blocked milk ducts, the openly displayed disgust of fellow citizens) but from the male point of view... zero negatives.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by dang65:
quote:Originally posted by ben: Any recommended must-haves?
Absolute essential if you have any hope of retaining your sanity is that Mrs Ben breastfeeds, and that she continues breastfeeding for 18 months at a bare minumum.
He's not wrong.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
But don't you then end up with tits like spaniels' ears, which repel your husband who then shags a secretary?
I'm sure it's all v good for the infant, but the idea of breastfeeding when they can say 'bitty' and start to lift your t-shirt is mildly repellent.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
Six months is what they say here, 18 seems a bit long to me.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by herbs: But don't you then end up with tits like spaniels' ears, which repel your husband who then shags a secretary?
Mrs Mask still has magnificent knockers.
quote:Originally posted by herbs: the idea of breastfeeding when they can say 'bitty' and start to lift your t-shirt is mildly repellent.
This is from the telly, right?
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
I thought your tits sagged anyway, just from getting all stretchy-mega-giant while you're pregnant? You can always just get implants stuck in anyway right? Plus, if people will cheat on J-Lo and Kylie and all those other perky ladies, methinks the urge to stray revolves around more than mere pulchritude.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
I know really... i just like to add it to my list of things to worry about.
And 'bitty' is indeed off the telly, but my thought originally formed when I heard that Jenny Bond ('royal correspondent' and 'star' of IACGMOOH) breast-fed her son until he was FOUR.
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
quote: ...but from the male point of view... zero negatives.
I dunno, a guy at work was moaning about Non-Recreational Breasts.
Posted by saltrock (Member # 622) on :
I was ok at the breastfeeding bit, but I could never do the expressing bit. So, when I went back to work full time, I had to stop. It used to make me laugh though if I was at my parents and Elle needed feeding because my dad used to go scarlet and say, "oh, I just need to do something in the potting shed" and run like fuck. Most amusing.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by herbs: breast-fed her son until he was FOUR.
I read about some trailer-park banjo-picker who breast-fed her son until he was five. That's child abuse.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: I read about some trailer-park banjo-picker who breast-fed her son until he was five. That's child abuse.
Not if you call your child Oedipus.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: I read about some trailer-park banjo-picker who breast-fed her son until he was five. That's child abuse.
Imagine how embarrassed he must have been at school when it was milk'n'cookies time...
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Yeah, and he had to eat his Dad's 'cookies'.
Posted by Ghost (Member # 775) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: Any recommended must-haves?
ritalin
Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
quote:Originally posted by Uber Trick: Kryste, imagine that these were your only choices:
1) No babies ever 2) Having Benway's childe and him being a weekend dad
brrr
I think VP should have Benway's baby.
That would give us loads to chat about.
(posted by froopyscot, not rooster. just for clarity, like.)
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by dang65: Doctors and midwives will sneer at the thought, and tell her to abandon the idea the moment she expresses any doubt, but persevere.
This is really odd. From our first contact with the health services the bombardment of pro-breastfeed propaganda has been quite incredible. I think even when D told her she was planning to breastfeed the woman at the hospital still continued her why-you-should-definitely-do-it-and-if-you-don't-well-I'm-not-actually-calling-you-a-Bad-Mother-but-but-but rant until she ran out of steam.
The health benefits are obviously pretty widely understood but a couple of friends of ours who've had kids recently actually felt as though they were being bullied into continuing when they had considerable problems getting their babies to feed (considerable problems = bleeding nipples, indescribable pain etc).
Think D will give it a good go, but if she's had enough of it I don't think formula's all as awful as it's made out to be. After all, fashions in child-rearing being what they are, most of us were probably raised on formula, and what harm has it don- *hits key, finger snaps*
[ 09.02.2005, 05:06: Message edited by: ben ]
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
This is so the time to discuss whether or not we were breastfed as children, and what, if any, effect we feel it may have had on subsequent mother / child bonding in later life. Also, I believe that this topic has never, ever, ever been discussed before on TMO or Seethru and for that it deserves a giant glistening medal in the shape of a golden nipple, don't you think?
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
I was suckled by a flying she-octopus.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
How the fuck are you supposed to know whether you were breast fed or not? Seriously, how fuck do you find that out? Shall I ring my mum and ask her now? I think that would really frighten her, to be honest.
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
Jesus, sweary! Well I know I was breastfed, and so were my sisters. One of my most frightening moments was asking mum 'how it came out' one time when she was breast-feeding Michelle in the car, and mum pulled Michelle off her tit, and squirted a creamy-white jet of milk onto the car floor. OH MY GOD that was traumatic in soooo many ways. And I know that my ex-boyfriend was breastfed, but his younger brother wasn't, and I know that he got on well with his mother, but his brother didn't. Surely everyone knows whether or not they were breastfed? I'm shocked that you don't know, Davis.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Hmm. I don't know. My bones never, ever break even when I've taken really bad falls/ bike crashes/ skateboard crashes. Is that a clue? I get on quite well with my mum, but I get on quite well with my dad too. So it's hard to say.
Posted by Astromariner (Member # 446) on :
I wasn't breastfed. Also, my mum chuffed Bensons for the duration of her pregnancy, and I'm 5 foot 10 with the sort of build that polite people describe as "big boned". I was a very placid baby: apparently I hardly ever cried, and didn't really have any problems sleeping until I started worrying about AIDS in 1985. Apart from the usual minor illnesses like chicken pox and measles and so forth, I've never really been ill. I wonder what I'd have ended up like if mum had breastfed me and given up the cigarettes: a sort of cross between Fatima Whitbread and the Dalai Lama, perhaps.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
I don't actually know if I was breastfed. I suspect I was – evidence being robust constitution, state of mother's knockers, fact that Mum was anti the whole 1960s scientific birth shizzle – but don't know for how long.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: I get on quite well with my mum, but I get on quite well with my dad too. So it's hard to say.
I suppose you'll be telling us next you never sucked your Dad off, either?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I was allergic to milk as a kid, with predictably hilarious consequences. So, that's a no from me.
Posted by Neurotic Cat (Member # 756) on :
I dont know either?
I assume so though. Never broken any bones and managed to get to 27 with no fillings but is that really a clear indicator lol!
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: This is really odd. From our first contact with the health services the bombardment of pro-breastfeed propaganda has been quite incredible.
Yeah, you get a different batch of health professionals before the baby actually arrives. Post-natal they'll just tell you you're mad for even mentioning the idea.
I wasn't breastfed because I was adopted, but three out of our four boys were and it's the one who wasn't that had excema, asthma, a cat fur allergy, and the most awful sleeping problems. Could well have been coincidence of course, I'm not saying it wasn't, but the advantages are there in so many other ways.
As for the loss of recreational breasts for the duration, I'd say better that than the complete loss of the energy or will to enjoy the recreation in the first place. Keeping up with a baby's (non-)sleep cycle requires the kind of stamina that would make Dame Ellen MacArthur jump straight overboard.
Maybe 18 months seems a bit over-the-top, and they will be on solids by then of course, but it just depends what you feel comfortable with, and Mrs Dang continued that long with a couple of ours. Not all the time of course, but a slow weaning which was good for both parties.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Breast-milk for 18 months then straight onto McCain's French Bread Pizzas.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
what kind of parties were those, eh dang? Pervert.
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
While we're on this babies shizzle, I just became an Uncle for the second time.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
I know my brother and I were breast fed; I think during one of those "mothers who don't breast feed are no better than godless savages and may as well pour petrol down their infants' throats" moments on a news programme my mum must have confirmed it.
I like to think that as the eldest I consumed all the quality stuff, leaving my brother with the rancid dregs. I've always been very healthy; no broken bones, never had a working day off sick etc etc. Despite nipple-nourishment, my brother had asthma, ear problems and countless allergies.
As a *shut your ears* female who is not remotely interested in reproduction, I like to think my perspective on the whole child thing is a little more objective. I find the level of pious finger-wagging surrounding parenthood quite shocking. It's incomprehensible to me that anyone could even be interested in the gynaecological details of somebody else's birth, let alone lump it in with moral/political issues. The whole "too posh to push" thing is ridiculous; whose fucking business is it apart from the woman and her obstetrician's?
Oh, while it's relevant, I got a text from an old school friend saying she's just had her 3rd son, named "Hewgo". And it's got some ridiculous Greek surname ending in "opodopolopodus".
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
quote:Originally posted by Astromariner: I wasn't breastfed. Also, my mum chuffed Bensons for the duration of her pregnancy, and I'm 5 foot 10 with the sort of build that polite people describe as "big boned".
I am Astro! Well, I am like Astro only not as good (it is okay, I have come to terms with this now). My Mum chuffed the fags throughout pregnancy and all home life, never gave me the smallest drop of breast milk because she could never quite manage to produce any, and allowed my sister to drop me half a metre, head first, onto a stone floor when I was three weeks old. Despite that I am nearing six foot, built like I ought to be lopping off a breast for better archery skillz and *crossed fingers* relatively healthy in that I don't seem to succumb to allergies and that sort of shit. Though I suppose there are those that might comment that I am perhaps not a shining exemplar of unstained humanity. Perhaps if I'd had breast milk I might be nicer?
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
I shall be the same as Louche and Astro.
Does anyone else with no allergies/illness get the feeling that many are just attention seeking. I sometimes feel bad about thinking this, and Im sure that some are real, but you know...
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
I have an irrational hatred of people with allergies, despite the fact that my mother has asthma, and I guess my children will get it too, since it allegedgly skips a generation. But it's like, yeah, I used to get all sneezy around cats, and have horrible crying itchy eyes - so I just GOT a cat, and... ta-daa! No more allergies! Simple! I was seeing this man with cat allergies, and I didn't want to go back to his house, and he couldn't come to mine unless I had changed all the sheets and we slept with the cat out of the room and the window open. And all I could think was 'you, dude, are becoming less and less attractive by the SECOND. What kind of girl would want to let a weak little scared-of-cats milksop stick his wobbly penis into her? Come ON!' I know that's not very nice but honestly. Men with cat allergies are so gey. Just like male vegetarians are gey. Geywads.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
quote:Originally posted by Abby:
Does anyone else with no allergies/illness get the feeling that many are just attention seeking. I sometimes feel bad about thinking this, and Im sure that some are real, but you know...
Even if they're not attention seeking, it's fucking boring having to listen them bang on about it.
Except the ultra-deadly peanut one, where if someone puts a packet of KP nuts into their trolley in the Tesco Metro at Wimbledon someone in Cardiff drops dead. That's quite exciting.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
As I said, I couldn't handle milk when I was a kid, but now I drink 7-9 pints of it a day (not including milkshakes), and I'm fine.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
I dunno, I mean when you have a really shitty cold, with a runny nose and a constant cough and red eyes, you look really pathetic to people that happen not to have a cold at the time. And hayfever looks absolutely evil when I see colleagues with it, hardly able to see or breath just because of some stupid allergy to lovely Spring days.
That said, my lad with the cat allergy does come over as a complete hypochondriac when he's got the affliction. I'm like, "Just go outside and get some fresh air. And take some of that Ventolin stuff. You'll be fine." But he still acts like he's about to drown or something. But I've never had it, so it's hard to say really. I mean, people actually drop dead from nut allergies and bee sting allergies and stuff, so there must be something in it.
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
True! Exciting allergies are ok - I have one friend who has to keep a syringe of adrenaline with her at all times in case someone who once ate a brazil nut walks past.
I'll let that one go.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
I know! My ex was allergic to cats, dogs, horses, fish, nuts, grass... and, consequently, washing, eating out, fun, and the world, as he had a generally timid and afraid-of-life outlook, afraid that something would bring him out in hives. He was the opposite of attention-seeking, but his feebleness drove me completely insane.
People with 'food intolerances' drive me up the wall. Fair enough if milk gives you the shits, or you actually are celiac, but all the rest of you skinny bitches avoiding pizza because 'wheat makes you bloat' - kiss my flabby white flour-lovin' ass. Pizza makes you bloat because it's enormously fattening. Slags.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
There's a nice mixture of antagonism and bonhomie on the boards today...
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
I used to work with a girl who was allegedly horribly allergic to carrots. Carrots FFS! That is just shit! And she went on about it all the fucking time.
And vinegar! Another one who apparently drops down dead at the slightest sniff. I'd like to see some rigorous empirical experiments, that’s what I'd like to see.
I know most of it is bollocks see, because when I was about 4 I ate a whole pineapple and vomited profusely for a day. Could have been coincidence, I don’t know, but I went round saying I was allergic to pineapple for a couple of years. Didn’t want to be left out see – everyone else had an allergy.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by Abby: I ate a whole pineapple
What? Whole? Fuck's sake!
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Don't you find blind people really irritating? It's the way they can't see and they have those dogs and white sticks, LOL! I reckon they're probably faking it to get attention...
Look at the camera you faker! Posted by Jessica Rabbit (Member # 776) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poetess: Except the ultra-deadly peanut one,
I went out with a guy who had a nut allergy and when I found out he'd been stealing from my bank account I put nuts in his food and his throat closed up and he had o spend the night in hospital. That was one of the best days of my life.
Posted by OJ (Member # 752) on :
I'll be with Astro and Louche too, in the Amazonian archery n' javelin league.
Except that breastfeeding and a childhood crammed with wholemeal food, educational visits and long walks has left me a puny 5ft 7 vaguely neurotic homosexual who throws underarm. Can I sue? And more to the point, can one of you nip over here and open this jar for me? My hands are too small.
Okay so I'm exaggerating my puniness. I'm not sure that all these no-wheat-no-dairy-three-times-a-week-at-yoga types are attention seeking. But perhaps they are congenitally neurotic and, well a bit precious frankly.
I've read loads of articles which point out that actual wheat allergy, for example is relatively rare and has remained at similar levels within the population for years. The new problem is known as wheat intolerance . Perhaps some touchy-feely workshops explaining how discriminated against the wheat feels are in order.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Don't you find blind people really irritating?
There's a blind bloke round our way with really freaky blind-eyes, all grey and oozy and rolling around in his skull. That fucker should be forced to wear shades. It should be the law.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
quote:Originally posted by Abby: I used to work with a girl who was allegedly horribly allergic to carrots. Carrots FFS!
They're great, people you work with. Where would we be without them? I once worked with a chap who had this terror of oranges - including satsumas, mandarins and other similarly hued citrus fruits. Of course, there was no way anyone could suspect this, so a new person might decide to have an orange one day and start peeling it at their desk some 20-30ft away from OrangeTerrorMan, only for him to leap up from his desk the moment the waft arrived, clawing at his neck as if some sort of biological warfare attack was in progress. He'd crawl to the door, amidst much eye-rolling from the rest of the office, and wouldn't return for some two hours. Good ruse if you can pull it off I suppose.
Posted by saltrock (Member # 622) on :
My daughter has some nasty allergies. She has a habit of swelling up so much that she literally can't see as her eyes can't open if she eats something that she shouldn't. She also gets covered in nettle rash. Attention seeking cow.
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
Don't let her do anything to piss off Jessica Rabbit then....
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
Oh, ha-ha-ha people with allergies are shit aren't they. Just like gingers. And blacks.
I went to college, shared a house with, a very lovely girl who died from an allergy to nut oil that was used in a sandwich, but I guess she's ok because she had an 'exciting' allergy.
Since I was twenty one, and I foolishly left beautifully polluted London for college, I've had cat allergies that sound similar to Dang's lad's; mild asthma, by mild I mean occasionally feeling like I can't breathe, even though I am, which is lovely honestly, or mild eye irritation, and by mild I mean feeling as though my eyeballs have been rolled in gravel, again a real treat. Of course I just love these sensations, and like I said they're only mild, and since I do them on purpose I probably deserve evrything I get.
Also when I said I'd just become an Uncle for the second time, I didn't mean, like, last week, I meant actually just then. But cheers anyway.
Posted by saltrock (Member # 622) on :
Did you stay up all night waiting for the birth? If so, I suggest you go and have a nice long nap. You'll feel better when you wake up.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I don't think that you can compare having an allergy to being black or ginger, BR.
[ 09.02.2005, 08:41: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
You need to move your can, Benway.
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
Don't be too jealous Saltrock, you could always have the Benway spawn.
And I don't see why not Benway. And if not, what about, say, the deaf or blind, or the short sighted even, god they're shit aren't they, how feeble of them to not be fucking perfect. Gey as.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
Bollocks, I had a mental bet with myself that someone would have a dead-by-peanut friend within 10 posts.
Now I owe myself 15 minutes of work.
Posted by Neurotic Cat (Member # 756) on :
Congrats on becoming an Uncle again Boy Racer
Nieces and Nephews are ace! Especially when you hand them back when they start puking/crying/screaming*
*delete as applicable
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Boy Racer: And if not, what about, say, the deaf or blind, or the short sighted even, god they're shit aren't they, how feeble of them to not be fucking perfect. Gey as.
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Don't you find blind people really irritating? It's the way they can't see and they have those dogs and white sticks, LOL! I reckon they're probably faking it to get attention...
Look at the camera you faker!
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
being black or ginger isn't really an illness or disability though.
*hides*
[ 09.02.2005, 08:34: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by Astromariner (Member # 446) on :
quote:Originally posted by Boy Racer: Also when I said I'd just become an Uncle for the second time, I didn't mean, like, last week, I meant actually just then. But cheers anyway.
Happy New Uncle-Hood, Boy Raceur! I'm sorry - I wasn't paying attention before.
Posted by Bamba (Member # 330) on :
quote:Originally posted by Boy Racer: And if not, what about, say, the deaf or blind, or the short sighted even, god they're shit aren't they, how feeble of them to not be fucking perfect. Gey as.
Misc already did that one.
ETA: Twice now.
[ 09.02.2005, 08:37: Message edited by: Bamba ]
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
quote:Originally posted by Boy Racer: Also when I said I'd just become an Uncle for the second time, I didn't mean, like, last week, I meant actually just then. But cheers anyway.
What are you expecting here? I mean, you've not put any effort into this. It's not your swimmy sperm, you haven't pushed the thing out, ripping bits of your genitals apart in the process, you're not sacrificing anything to bring it up and, by your own admission it's not even an unprecedented event.
Were you expecting the thread to become a wave of congratulations? You'll have to try harder for that, boyo. Try paternity, or adopting a snotty nosed kid or something....
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Bamba: Misc already did that one.
ETA: Twice now.
And nobody had anything constructive to add...
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jessica Rabbit: I went out with a guy who had a nut allergy and when I found out he'd been stealing from my bank account I put nuts in his food and his throat closed up and he had o spend the night in hospital. That was one of the best days of my life.
Hey Jessica, have you ever read Cuban Heels?
BR - Hooray on the Uncle squared! Boy or girl?
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
See, this is a perfect illustration of the essential Astro-Louche differential. BR becomes an uncle and she congratulates him and I make some mean-spirited remark which isn't even humourous.
Then follow it up with some shit that doesn't make sense until it's been edited twice.
[ 09.02.2005, 08:39: Message edited by: Louche ]
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
LOLouche @ humourless/humourous confusion.
Posted by Astromariner (Member # 446) on :
I dunno Louche - being nice is so 2004. I'd like to be meaner occasionally. Sometimes I look at what I've just typed and want to punch myself in the head for being such a total sap.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Saying that something is so [YEAR] is so [YEAR]-1.
Posted by Astromariner (Member # 446) on :
oh! I thought it was a new saying, like "m9" and things being "gay".
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I agree with Louche about the 'congratulations' thing. I had absolutely no idea how to respond. "Well done?" Congratualations seemed totally inappropriate - after all it's not Boy Racer's sperm that done the kid - and if it was well, that's just fucked up.
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: Hmm. I don't know. My bones never, ever break even when I've taken really bad falls/ bike crashes/ skateboard crashes. Is that a clue? I get on quite well with my mum, but I get on quite well with my dad too. So it's hard to say.
Perhaps your dad breastfed you.
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
MuchLOLS.
Sorry Misc, I must of missed that while I was typing my self-righteous-indignato-post.
Thank you all for Uncle congrats. It's a boy, nephew no. two, his parents have called him Theo, the middleclass scummers.
[ 09.02.2005, 09:03: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Astromariner: oh! I thought it was a new saying, like "m9" and things being "gay".
Christ!
It's "m'nine" and "gey" now.
Didn't you get the memo?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
quite a monumental post coming up for you, thr0n. Make sure it's a good one, not like what ben did.
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
I think I responded just perfectly. A congenial "Hooray" and a question after the gender of the new child. Polite, interested and happy for BR as he is obviously happy. Not so hard when you know how.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Boy Racer: his parents have called him Theo
Why? Is he blacke? Also: Does he have any allergies?
I need to know, before I can congratul'eight you.
[ 09.02.2005, 08:54: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:Originally posted by Boy Racer: his parents have called him Theo
Why? Is he blacke?
Half.
Like Baron Samedi.
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
quote:Originally posted by dang65: They're great, people you work with. Where would we be without them? I once worked with a chap who had this terror of oranges - including satsumas, mandarins and other similarly hued citrus fruits. Of course, there was no way anyone could suspect this, so a new person might decide to have an orange one day and start peeling it at their desk some 20-30ft away from OrangeTerrorMan, only for him to leap up from his desk the moment the waft arrived, clawing at his neck as if some sort of biological warfare attack was in progress. He'd crawl to the door, amidst much eye-rolling from the rest of the office, and wouldn't return for some two hours. Good ruse if you can pull it off I suppose.
My boss's dad has a terror of big leaves! He is scared of them and once crashed a car because a big leaf blew onto his windscreen! His wife would try and desensitise him by giving him tiny plants and saying 'Look, it's ok. It's just a tiny-weeny harmless little leaf!' And he'd be completely fine with it, until suddenly it would grow above some pre-specified size that magically turned it into a Big Leaf, and then he'd be all like *wavy-hands* 'ARGH! ARGH! GET IT AWAY FROM ME!' Aren't phobias fun!
[ 09.02.2005, 09:27: Message edited by: London ]
Posted by damo (Member # 722) on :
i hate cats. hate the fuckers. i'm also not too sure about wasps, spiders, anything that looks dangreous (alive or dead).
however, mutant worms? bring that shit on.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
quote:Originally posted by damo: however, mutant worms? bring that shit on.
Yeah, only because most of them are your own creations, you mad Frankendamo. What are you going to do if they turn against you one day? When they turn against you, that should say.
Posted by damo (Member # 722) on :
these are 1mm long worms. we're not talking worms from the southern desert here. i'm not suddenly going to be faced with a mass of worm-riding fremen screaming "maudib!" and "shYYYIAN" while atomics are raining down around the medical centre here in nashville.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
quote:Originally posted by damo: these are 1mm long worms. we're not talking worms from the southern desert here. i'm not suddenly going to be faced with a mass of worm-riding fremen screaming "maudib!" and "shYYYIAN" while atomics are raining down around the medical centre here in nashville.
Pfft. Yeah, right, never gonna happen is it? Sure, man, whatever you say.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: quite a monumental post coming up for you, thr0n. Make sure it's a good one, not like what ben did.
You fucker Benway - I just spent my entire lunchbreak ghosting Jonesy's post over on the 'teambuilding' thread and this is the reward I get.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
sorry m9
I tell you what; I feel well knackered today, and I got a good night's sleep last night. I didn't even stay up to watch all of the show about feeders.
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
So I laid my heart out on the table before her and sliced it piece by piece as she wanted. She loved that shit. She asked for it. She wanted to know every detail. And I in return wanted to know. "Yes, we talk about it. We both want to, we're both really ready, it's just a matter of when. But it should be you two first!!!" Ha ha! We laugh. But what if it is her? It is going to be, that's for sure. That will be weird. I sit on the tube and think about it all. You know how sometimes when you look at your reflection in the tube window and it's in black and white and sometimes it's in colour? Well, I looked and I saw my tweed hat that belonged to my Grandpa, passed down to my Dad and recently passed on to me. I saw my reddish blonde hair, curled from the rain, falling on to my shoulders, the blonde bits really sticking out and hightlighted against my fake fur stole that I wore with my new real pearl brooch. I saw the bright green of my coat which everyone commented on, the red of my fake Gucci bag - or "Fucci" as I had affectionally called it - and the bright pink of the tops of my legwarmers sticking out over my black slouch boots, over my jeans. And I swear, although my eyes aren't that good, I swear that I could see the black rim on the inside of my lips, the tell-tale sign of a bottle of red wine, like the lips of the people at the party we stumbled in to on Saturday night. "Oh Fuck," I said, as I took in all the bright colours and mismatching designs "Oh fuck I think I'm mad."
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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Alcohol is ace.
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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
4 R33l?
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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Nice and poo. I mean, you know...Nice. But like. Poo.
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