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Don't believe the Hype was said in 88 by the great Chuck D / Now they're tryna fuck me
So said Ice Cube in 92 and surely in his South Central days he'd have had some weapons-grade scorn to pour on new C4 US import Lost. We've been putting up with gay, Calvin Kleinish adverts for this programme for the past month or so now and it turns out to be - what? - a total pile of wank.
Granted, the first five minutes were pretty exciting mayhem, but then? Not only were these survivors the most un-traumatised crash victims ever but none of them had to deal with anything remotely approaching a realistic desert island horror.
Trying to break into an upturned airliner cockpit with post-9/11 locked door? Fucking hell, I'd like to see how they cope with th- Oh. He just hit it with a fire extinguisher and it opened. Right.
By the end of the first half it was being handled so cack-handedly that the 'scary noises' made by an unseen creature were not so much a source of dread as a source of weary anticipation at whatever moth-eaten/stupid/unconvincing pantomime monster it eventually ends up being.
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I liked Lost - I thought it was a pleasing blend of Lord of the Flies with breathtakingly good-looking actors and actresses, and racist Asian stereotypes. I also enjoyed the useless fat kid and the fact that most of the chicks were wearing denim hotpants. I can't stress how much that added in terms of watchability.
I missed the first half of the pilot, cuz I'd been watching Australian missed-opportunity Ned Kelly instead. Maybe it was by comparison with that that the second half seemed quite exciting and well scripted. Plus, VP and I weren't aware that there had been a first part to the pilot, so the way we were literally thrown into the story seemed really groundbreaking and original. Until we realised we'd just missed an hour.
Still it was decent enough that I watched half an hour of the third episode on E4 afterwards.
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Thorn and I settled down to watch this at 10 last night. Initially we thought the way the narrative threw the viewer straight in without much fleshing out was refreshingly original. Then we realised we were watching the second episode and had missed the first.
I thought it was allright. Anything with polar bears in has to be good, surely? Has anyone ever been on a plane with that many good looking passengers?
Edit: glad to see we both got our stories straight.
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quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: and racist Asian stereotypes
wtf were they about? I got the feeling there'd been a major fucking failure of nerve in terms of them (pure guesswork) possibly being Asian-as-in-Muslim in an early draft of the script and gradually being watered down into safely apolitical Japanese (?) by the time we got to actual casting and production.
I only saw the first half (Sam went mental around 10pm) but have taped the second; we'll watch tonight and - who knows? - I may have changed my mind by this time tomorrow.
I just got the feeling that the 'creepy monster' stuff was pursued very much at the expense of the possibly more interesting Ray Mearsish challenges that this sort of set-up ought to include.
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You reached over with your hand and knocked my Jap over
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I found it entertaining up to the point when the trees started rustling. Then it all seemed a bit like Jurassic Park and I did a little inward sigh which would have sounded like "scwhwooooo" and went to the kitchen and had a biscuit.
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I enjoyed the bit where they found the transmission of that french woman saying "I'm the only one left - they're all dead. Help me!" which was being auto-repeated from the island for the last 16 years...
[SP] I can't wait for the bits where the beast invades the beach camp, LOTR bloke goes through withdrawal, the pregnant girl gets ill through lack of fluids, they find the french woman alive and Agent Doggett shows up... [/SPOILERS]
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quote: Now I dont want to give anything away (and I dont think I am) but the end of the series made me mad in the same way reading Dan Brown does.
I have also seen all of it (from the interweb), and I would say it was a different kind of anger.
It is pretty silly, and continues to be so, but enjoyable nonethless.
I have typed about 5 different additional sentences and they all give something away to those with the power of deduction! Shutting up....now.
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I found it pretty entertaining, but time will tell as the plot stretches out. I agree with Ben on the post 9/11 cockpit thing - at the time I was wondering how the hell our hero would get in, he coolly smacked it open.
There was also the matter of the dog being on the loose, when one assumes it would have been locked securely in a cage and placed in the hold.
And then... Oh never mind. It's entertainment after all.
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1) Why don't they find the french tart's transmitter? Her battery has lasted for 16 years. Their one was knackered after ten minutes.
2) What the fuck is all that 118 bollocks in between? A man looks tense as the jungle shakes with strange sounds...cut to two pillocks on a chair
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I'm surprised they tried to export 'Lost' after it failed so miserably here. They even tried running two 'Lost' marathons in the hopes that people would watch 'from the beginning' and therefore care in the least about the characters. But that also failed to happen. I think the collective attitude of the US viewing audience was "Who's lost? Fuck 'em", and I can't say I'm in the least bit surprised if the show's gotten the same reaction over there.
Perhaps they should have recast and reshot the show for the British audience, kind of a reversal of what they did to The Office when they tried to Americanize it and made it utterly and completely sucktasticly bad.
quote:Originally posted by froopyscot: I think the collective attitude of the US viewing audience was "Who's lost? Fuck 'em", and I can't say I'm in the least bit surprised to see the show's gotten the same reaction over there.
That's odd - it's being promoted over here as the most popular thing since 24. I assumed it had done pretty well in the US. Also, it picked up loads of *awards.
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yeah, and hasn't the second season started or is due to start soon? The poster's really put me off, that plus the fact that I'm working six day weeks, going into overtime almost everyday, and am still caffine free which really doesn't help, so I couldn't be sodded to start watching anything really.
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quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: I also enjoyed the useless fat kid and the fact that most of the chicks were wearing denim hotpants. I can't stress how much that added in terms of watchability.
I feel awful saying this but watching the second half of the pilot last night I completely agree with Thorn. There was one completely gratuitous sequence where the sexy serial-killer chick was (washing? cooling down?) in the sea in just her bra and knickers - undoubtedly one of the best moments in television in the past 18 months.
'realism' note: there are going to have to be an awful lot of seals flapping around somewhere on the island to keep a whole polar bear going for 16 years.
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quote:Originally posted by ben: the sexy serial-killer chick was (washing? cooling down?) in the sea in just her bra and knickers - undoubtedly one of the best moments in television in the past 18 months.
She has the least attractive body I've ever clapped eyes on. What's wrong with you?
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Oh Yawn. I haven't seen someone doing that whole "I don't fancy her she's minging!" thing about an obviously attractive woman since I was about 15. O wait - Boy Racer did it a little while back about Angelina Jolie. Boy Racer and Black Mask.
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It's the lithe athletic look, BM. You know, energetic and supple in bed. A body that ages well- less to go saggy.
Anyway, they don't let women that pregnant on planes, surely? Also, having missed the first episode, where were they flying from and to?
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quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: Oh Yawn. I haven't seen someone doing that whole "I don't fancy her she's minging!" thing about an obviously attractive woman since I was about 15. O wait - Boy Racer did it a little while back about Angelina Jolie. Boy Racer and Black Mask.
How would doing that in any way benefit me?
How? She looks like a boy and I don't get hot looking at boys bodies. When appraising a female body, which, I shudder to admit, I occasionally do, I look for things like hips, tits, buttocks, thighs, belly, flesh... not jagged bone arching through paper-thin fatless skin.
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